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voting [Tue, 4-Nov-2008 1:56 PM]
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I sure hate Livejournal on election days.

  1. I voted weeks ago (permanent absentee) and I don't understand why anyone would ever choose to wait in line to do it in person at the last minute. Are you massochists?

  2. Please stop telling me to vote no on 8. Do you honestly think that there's anyone who reads your LJ who would vote yes? Seriously? Seriously? I know it's fun to get worked up and rant at the choir over things you can't affect, but come on, shut up.

  3. Just about everyone on my friends list who has posted about the election in the past few weeks has trotted out the same old platitude that goes: "I don't care what you vote for, but please vote! Even if you are completely uninformed and/or will vote to undermine fundamental principles of our democracy, please vote!" Shut up. You're an idiot.

  4. That Spider Jerusalem quote.
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[User Picture]From: [info]solarbird
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 9:59 PM (UTC)

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Please stop telling me to vote no on 8. Do you honestly think that there's anyone who reads your LJ who would vote yes?
Actually, in my case, that has been true somewhat regularly in the past. I have an (now ex-)friend, for example, who actively campaigned for the Federal Marriage Amendment, which is why she's now an ex-friend.

But mostly I was telling people to donate money to the "no" side, which is somewhat different.
[User Picture]From: [info]pavel_lishin
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:04 PM (UTC)

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It's crazy how we can sometimes have friends that don't happen to agree with us on political issues!
[User Picture]From: [info]ctd
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:01 PM (UTC)

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I wait until the last minute just in case a candidate flips the fuck out and sets his wife on fire.
[User Picture]From: [info]keimel
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:03 PM (UTC)

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There are still a few hours left... we can hope.

[User Picture]From: [info]esan
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:02 PM (UTC)

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Just about everyone on my friends list who has posted about the election in the past few weeks has trotted out the same old platitude that goes: "I don't care what you vote for, but please vote! Even if you are completely uninformed and/or will vote to undermine fundamental principles of our democracy, please vote!" Shut up. You're an idiot.

Thank you, dear god.
[User Picture]From: [info]lionsphil
Wed, 5-Nov-2008 9:36 PM (UTC)

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I also approve this paragraph 9,000%.
[User Picture]From: [info]movingfinger
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:03 PM (UTC)

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I'd like to be able to kick all those sanctimonious voters going all out for Obama this year in the nuts. The really important shit went down in 2000 and 2004. Obama is running for a janitorial position, cleaning up after the Bush orgy.
[User Picture]From: [info]blaisepascal
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:06 PM (UTC)

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So the real question for voters is whether Obama or McCain would be a better janitor for the post Bush-orgy cleanup. I can see that.

Doesn't change my vote, but I can see that point of view.

[User Picture]From: [info]mooflyfoof
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:07 PM (UTC)

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re: 1) I don't trust the USPS, and luckily my polling place is not super impacted. I was in and out within 20 minutes, and it was a pleasant experience connecting with the neighbors.

Here here on the rest of the stuff, though.
[User Picture]From: [info]sc00ter
Wed, 5-Nov-2008 1:47 AM (UTC)

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I've had HUGE problems with my snail mail lately as well. Missing bills and other important documents for lame places that don't do it electronically. It's been an ongoing ordeal for MONTHS that still is not 100% fixed.

That said, I went this morning, took less than 5mins to get in and out... But... I live in the boonies.
From: [info]grayscalewolf
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:07 PM (UTC)

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I've seen comments from people who purposefully delayed voting to election day, out of a desire to be out there in the middle of history.
[User Picture]From: [info]sparklydevil
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:08 PM (UTC)

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somebody needs a nap and a cookie!
[User Picture]From: [info]blaisepascal
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:09 PM (UTC)

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I voted weeks ago (permanent absentee) and I don't understand why anyone would ever choose to wait in line to do it in person at the last minute. Are you masochists?

Some of us don't have a choice. I live in an excuse-needed absentee voting state, and I don't have a legal excuse to vote absentee. So I waited in line this morning (admittedly, it was a small line) and voted.

If I lived in a state which provided with some manner of no-excuse-needed early voting, I'd probably have voted weeks ago.
[User Picture]From: [info]structurefall
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:28 PM (UTC)

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if somebody broke your kneecaps, would that be a legal excuse?


also, i never have to wait in line to vote and you see the absolute weirdest cross-section of the populace in the weirdest state of mind possible when you do it in person. it's like swimming through a ball-pit full of ducks or something- not very comfortable and sometimes pretty noisy, but so surreal you just can't pass it up.
[User Picture]From: [info]nebulosity
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:12 PM (UTC)

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Yeah, I voted early too and my FL is clogged with "GO VOTE" entries. -_- ugh.
[User Picture]From: [info]howie_d_rivet
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:13 PM (UTC)

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I whole heartedly agree with paragraph 3. I find it dumb and annoying.
[User Picture]From: [info]unwoman
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:15 PM (UTC)

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When I wasn't voting absentee I always went to vote before 8 am and there was never a line. But yeah, no reason not to do absentee -- even if you want to wait or don't trust the mail, you can drop it off at city hall on election day.
[User Picture]From: [info]drawn_n_qrtered
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:16 PM (UTC)

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but come on, shut up.

Shut up. You're an idiot.

Direct and to the point! Well done
[User Picture]From: [info]loftwyr
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:23 PM (UTC)

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Don't vote, it only encourages them.
[User Picture]From: [info]jsbowden
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:23 PM (UTC)

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There was no line, and I had to pick my kid up from school anyway (and he goes to the school where I vote). Maybe once he's out of elementary school and I no longer have a convenient excuse to go there anyway, I'll vote early.
[User Picture]From: [info]ivan_ghandhi
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:25 PM (UTC)

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A bunch of my readers, otherwise pretty decent people, were pissed of when I just tried to explain my position not even on prop 8, but on a general definition of marriage, and on why having marriage rights may be important for some people.

So, yes, it happens. What can one do?
[User Picture]From: [info]misterfister666
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:28 PM (UTC)

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I vote absentee because the guy I sell my vote to demands verification.
[User Picture]From: [info]unwoman
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:46 PM (UTC)

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You could take a picture with your cell phone while in the booth, you know. But then I guess you wouldn't get paid as quickly.
[User Picture]From: [info]mackys
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:33 PM (UTC)

Re: #4

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[User Picture]From: [info]ommadawn
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:44 PM (UTC)

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thankz, i hoping someone would share the quote for the rest of us.

think I need to go read the rest of this series...
[User Picture]From: [info]pezking124
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:44 PM (UTC)

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Awesome.
[User Picture]From: [info]bbsy
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:48 PM (UTC)

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Thank you. What's worse is how self-righteous and persistent they are if you try to tell them that they are being useless and annoying.

Stupidity doesn't generally bother me until it becomes an epidemic. :/
[User Picture]From: [info]dojothemouse
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:53 PM (UTC)

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Greg Palast's reasoning isn't particularly compelling, but he says absentee ballots are for suckers:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-palast/7-ways-to-steal-back-your_b_139034.html

I'm a permanent absentee voter also, but I'll be fixing that before the next election. Even though I don't think there's much electioneering in SF or California in general.
[User Picture]From: [info]belgand
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:57 PM (UTC)

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There was a guy about 10-20 feet away from my polling place today electioneering. I wasn't certain of the specific distance required, but I'm going to try and find the proper people to call to get him dragged off. I didn't even bother to find out what or whom he's pushing for or against, but I just despise that sort of activity.
[User Picture]From: [info]belgand
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 10:55 PM (UTC)

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1)Eh, I live all the way over at the end of Alemany so I had basically no wait to vote in person. I'm usually the only person other than the volunteers who's even there. I was in and out in maybe 10 minutes.

I do it in person because it lets me procrastinate filling out the form. If I did it absentee I might not actually get it in the mail in time. I also really like getting the sticker.

2)Yes. I'm amazed at what people feel is the constant need to keep harping about it and spending tons and tons of money on ads. You're not going to change anyone's opinion. I can't imagine that someone didn't have their mind made up on this back in... was it June?... when the issue first came up.

3)If you're not going to vote the same way I am stay the fuck home. The only fundamental principle I care about is giving me what I want. That's the only reason we vote to begin with. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying whether it's to you or just to themselves.
From: [info]cjensen
Wed, 5-Nov-2008 11:10 PM (UTC)

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In CA, if you vote absentee you can procrastinate just as much as real voters, then drop your ballot off at any polling place. Bonus is that you don't have to line up at your polling place, and it's not evil electronic voting.
[User Picture]From: [info]pikuorguk
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 11:09 PM (UTC)

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Could we turn off the International News while you sort out which muppet is going to be in power? Just come on telly in a week's time and tell us who it is so we non US citizens aren't constantly plastered with all the back stabbing and mud flinging.

And your voting system is confusing.
[User Picture]From: [info]cattycritic
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 11:27 PM (UTC)

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1)Nope, for the last 5 years my polling place never has a line. I can walk to it from my house. I like doing that. Plus, I'm a procrastinator and haven't always spent the time to learn about all the things I need to vote on until just before election day.

2) Ok, because you said please, and because you've already voted, and because I figured you were against 8 anyway, and also because I don't tell other people how to vote (trying to persuade people, I do that but I don't boss them around), I won't.

3) \/\/

4)"Do not offend the Chair Leg of Truth; it is wise and terrible."?

You sound like you are in dire need of a nap. Or other famously effective stress relief.
[User Picture]From: [info]mechalith
Wed, 5-Nov-2008 1:18 AM (UTC)

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I'm thinking he means this one:

"You want to know about voting. I'm here to tell you about voting. Imagine you're locked in a huge underground night-club filled with sinners, whores, freaks and unnameable things that rape pitbulls for fun. And you ain't allowed out until you all vote on what you're going to do tonight. You like to put your feet up and watch "Republican Party Reservation". They like to have sex with normal people using knives, guns, and brand new sexual organs you did not even know existed. So you vote for television, and everyone else, as far as your eye can see, votes to fuck you with switchblades. That's voting. You're welcome."
[User Picture]From: [info]fgmr
Tue, 4-Nov-2008 11:46 PM (UTC)

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Hear, hear.
[User Picture]From: [info]httf
Wed, 5-Nov-2008 12:02 AM (UTC)

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I had one friend who posted to the effect of "un-friend me if you're voting yes on 8".

My immediate reaction was of course, "wow, that's gay."
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