I would never belong to a Mozilla party guest-list that would have me as a member.

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With the whole .org -> .com $$$ and the iceweasel nonsense, this seems like the kind of thing you'd expect from the project touted as a F/OSS model of success.

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If you think this is a clusterfuck, wait until you see what they did to the GUI in Firefox 3.

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I'm waiting for Version 4. Version 4 is always the abomination in browser versionings.

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Now that the address bar tells me what I want to see, I no longer need to think.

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This is to say nothing of the hideous Frankenstein's monster they made from the combined bookmarks/history browser. Need to know where you've been in the past few hours? tough!

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Any annoyances with the GUI in v3 are far overshadowed by fixing the sluggish speed and high memory consumption of v2. I am using the 3.0pre nightly builds and it is blisteringly fast. I don't like the new icons for forward/backward arrows especially with "Use Small Icons" enabled but I can live with it. Firefox v2 was getting very tiring.

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In fairness, that is true. (And the location bar search would be fine if it were a separate feature with its own search box, rather than a punch in the face.)

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Some of us web-born would love to go to this sort of thing.

Too bad.

>:(

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are they worried that they'll be identified as card carrying members of the Mozilla Party?

I'm noticing this meme btw in alot of the geek parties as of late, going back into those info @415.YOU.WISH days..

Sigh.

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Wasn't their reasoning "it's a 21s-and-over venue, so some key Mozilla contributors can't go. Because they can't go, nobody will go"?

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No, because they're having their new thing at a 21+ venue.

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IOW that was just a line to put you off.

Standard snobby corporate BS.

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jwz: i'm sorry it didn't work out to have the party at DNA, as you know from emails with me and mary here at mozilla. here's why we chose a different venue.

1. we wanted to keep this a smaller and more low key event. the main reason is that we are still working on a major release and we didn't want to host a blowout party that would cause developers and contributors who couldn't travel to feel like they'd missed out.

2. rather than focusing on just 3/31, we're doing a series of events over the year to commemorate the tenth anniversary of mozilla, all over the world. more details to come at mitchell baker's blog this week: http://blog.lizardwrangler.com

3. we didn't learn how big DNA was until after we'd initially connected with you in the public bug on organizing the party: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392686. and you're right, DNA was the wrong place for a small event. we're sorry for creating any extra work for you in getting estimates.

we've been promoting the party on mozilla.org and by reaching out to local mozilla community members. the invite's been live here for a few weeks: http://www.mozilla.org/party/2008/

take care.
- paul kim

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lame lame lame

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That is silly, Paul Kim. It's the 10 year anniversary. It should be a fun time with a big party! Why do you hate fun?

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It's a little late for that now, man. Let it go.

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It's interesting that when you're responding, you're using damage-control-speak. I guess that happens even with open source! It's like a press release!

"connected with you"

"reaching out"

Etc.

I'm not criticizing, I'm just sayin', going forward, what's on Mozilla's plate next month?

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A corporate drone with the title "VP of Something" attempting damage control?

What is this, news?

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>> [blahblah] the main reason is that we are still working on a major release and [blahblah]

This was the bothersome part. Shouldn't they always be working on a major release?

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It never used to stop them. From the mists of time:

I've just noticed that there's still purple ink on the inside of my right wrist spelling the word VOID: the hand-stamp from a concert that I went to last week. I left work, went to the show, and came back to work immediately afterwards. I've been here since.

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The new party location is on the Mozilla bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392686#c26
It's where most tech parties I've heard about are these days.
http://www.111minnagallery.com/about/

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that place is lame.

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Lame.

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Um, aren't we past the era of putting important things in Bugzilla? :{ What'd I miss?

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wow... that's lame.
The only reason I would have ever even attended is if:
1. You were there.
2. It was at DNA

oh well...

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