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The best music of 1997: a rebuttal. [Mon, 31-Dec-2007 12:44 PM]
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So, [info]structurefall considers it a point of pride that his musical taste and discoveries are consistently ten years in the past (to the point that it's very much a self-fulfilling prophecy.) Anyway, yesterday he was telling this story yet again, and said "Why, now that I'm up to 1997, I'm even starting to appreciate futurepoop!" By which he meant progressive-house bullshit like VNV Nation.

I started only-semi-coherently ranting at that point, and if he wasn't driving I probably would have grabbed and shaken him.

Anyway, at that point I rattled off a list of bands from 1997 that he should be listening to instead of that recycled lukewarm pabulum. I think most of what I shouted out was actually from 1996 or 1998, but when I got home, I spent ten minutes making a list.

Today he posted his list of the best of 1997, and his favorite bands suck. (I find it hard to be in his car because of this music, srsly.) Here then, is my rebuttal, in two parts:

The Best of 1997, or, Fuck Futurepop:

Big beat, trance, IDM, trip hop, and just a sprinkle of goth:

Rock and/or industrial:

Thank you. Drive through.

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[User Picture]From: [info]dr_memory
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 8:48 PM (UTC)

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Portishead is ten years old now? Good lord.
[User Picture]From: [info]dixieflatline
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 8:49 PM (UTC)

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What I always enjoyed about VNV Nation is that you could almos t hear the mouse clicking in Fruityloops.
[User Picture]From: [info]rivetpepsquad
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 8:51 PM (UTC)

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I think it's so *cute* when you guys scrap.
[User Picture]From: [info]7ghent
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 8:52 PM (UTC)

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Thank you. I said it in 1999 and I'll say it again, fuck VNV.
[User Picture]From: [info]bitwise
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 9:13 PM (UTC)

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I eagerly await jwz mixtape FFF6.
[User Picture]From: [info]heresiarch
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 9:14 PM (UTC)

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suddenly i'm glad i don't rely on either of you for music recommendations :P. the chemical brothers and the crystal method? ugh! talk about music that hasn't held up well. i'll give you autechre, recoil, portishead and mistle thrush though. but really, there are good reasons i don't still listen to hanzel und gretyl or sister machine gun anymore.
[User Picture]From: [info]catalyst
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 9:32 PM (UTC)

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I, too, will live a happier and more fruitful life if I never have to hear VNV or Apoptygma Bezerk ever again. But there's not really very much futurepop on [info]structurefall's list - Noisex, Wumpscut, and Numb (in particular) are much bigger on the screaming and the crunching then they are on the doof-doof.
[User Picture]From: [info]twiin
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 9:39 PM (UTC)

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More best-of-1997 as I remember it:

Hooverphonic - A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular
KMFDM - Symbols
Godflesh - Love and Hate in Dub
Laika - Sounds of the Satellites
The Orb - Orblivion
Lords of Acid - Voodoo-U
whatever that GYBE album was called
....and Numb - Blood Meridian, even though it's the first album on his list. Because it's just that good.
[User Picture]From: [info]prog
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 9:55 PM (UTC)

Underworld

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Apropos of the distant future of 2007, I discovered Underworld this year, and find them to be excellent work/hacking music. I learned only yesterday that they published a new album this year, too - a nice surprise after my assumption that they were a 1990s-only act. I can recommend them to anyone who likes electronic music.

VNV will always have a place on my guilty-pleasure playlist, alas.

[User Picture]From: [info]ammutbite
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 9:55 PM (UTC)

DV8 and Hose of usher...LOL

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what a crack-up. that is what I was listening to back then.
both of your lists, however, showcase far too many albums by bands I like that are not their best effort.
I won't say specificallly which ones ...
unit 187 sucked but I still have a warm spot for that(something to be said for a great break-up song coming along when you are actually breaking up with someone).
[User Picture]From: [info]netik
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 10:36 PM (UTC)

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Funny, I think my musical tastes in 1997 were much, much closer to yours than eric's.

Fluke and Crystal Method were defining albums of that time for me

The C-Tec album, at the time had been playing in the clubs since 1995 or so, but only had a commercial release in 1997.

I remember having been passed a CD-R of the album a year or two before it's release. It was a rare commodity that DJs treasured.

[User Picture]From: [info]nadya_lev
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 10:59 PM (UTC)

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Sleater-kinney - Dance Song '97 :)
[User Picture]From: [info]intoner
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 11:12 PM (UTC)

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yes!
low profile darkness! that record is fantastic.

glad to see these on there too:
Add N to (X) - Avant Hard
Not Breathing - Sangre Azul
Autechre - Chiastic Slide
Mono - Formica Blues
[User Picture]From: [info]intoner
Mon, 31-Dec-2007 11:33 PM (UTC)

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just from a quick glance in my itunes (providing it is correctly tagged), it'd say my best of 1997 would be:

Gridlock - The Synthetic Form
Panacea - Low Profile Darkness
P.A.L - m@rix
Radiohead - OK Computer
Aphex Twin - Come To Daddy
Atari Teenage Riot - Burn, Berlin, Burn !
Blur - Blur
Imminent Starvation - Human Dislocation
Synapscape - Rage
Autechre - Cichlisuite

these two don't really count because they're not really albums, but like a "best of" or "B-sides":

Jane's Addition - Kettle Whistle
Haujobb - From Homes To Planets
[User Picture]From: [info]tiff_seattle
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 12:10 AM (UTC)

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Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
[User Picture]From: [info]bluce
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 12:28 AM (UTC)

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I didn't know anyone had heard of Engorged with Blood besides me.

And I did only because I worked with Steve Kirk from 96-99.
[User Picture]From: [info]nightrider
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 12:44 AM (UTC)

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Engorged With Blood FTW!
[User Picture]From: [info]baconmonkey
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 12:47 AM (UTC)

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Prodigy - Fat of the LAnd
July 1, 1997

I'd call that a far more solid an influential release than anything by Crystal Method.
[User Picture]From: [info]bluce
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 12:50 AM (UTC)

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If I'm not mistaken, Idiot Flesh "Fancy" came out in 97.
[User Picture]From: [info]thargol
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 3:33 AM (UTC)

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1997, you say? After the long dark years of grunge, it was the year that metal finally resurfaced. Bruce Dickinson's "Accident of birth" and Hammerfall's "Glory to the brave" were the light at the end of the tunnel, showing that there was life in the old dog yet...
From: darkengobot
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 5:48 AM (UTC)

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I was commenting just the other day about the Newsletter that Goes Out to Hipsters and Scenesters to keep us up on What's Hot in the Music Scene. Apparently my subscription Ran Out in 1997.

Everything since then has been Completely Fucking Foreign to me. I recognized these bands, at least. So if I can locate a working TARDIS, maybe I can be Cool Again.
[User Picture]From: [info]grumpy_sysadmin
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 7:32 AM (UTC)

I agree across the board with one reservation:

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Dig Your Own Hole is completely unbearable. I have an idea of what they were trying to do, and I want to think it's clever, but whenever I hear it coming out of a speaker I want to turn it the fuck off.

(Erm... and I haven't actually heard of C-Tec, let alone that album. But, yeah, right on with everything else.)
[User Picture]From: [info]naohai
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 8:21 PM (UTC)

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Among others:

Sneaker Pimps - Becoming X (Feb. 1997). Either that or Underworld's "Second Toughest In The Infants" was the first album I ever bought

Radiohead - OK Computer

Distance to Goa, Vol. 6: I suppose a comp disc doesn't entirely count but this is my favorite of the DtG collections





Edited at 2008-01-01 08:21 pm (UTC)
[User Picture]From: [info]pavel_lishin
Tue, 1-Jan-2008 11:59 PM (UTC)

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Add N to (X) doesn't get enough recognition.
[User Picture]From: [info]telecart
Wed, 2-Jan-2008 12:26 AM (UTC)

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Isn't Faith no More's Album of the Year from 1997?

My list would also include KMFDM's SYMBOLS and The Dandy Warhols Come Down. I listened to those a lot back then.
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