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R.I.P. Habeus Corpus, 1215 - 2006. [Tue, 17-Oct-2006 4:32 PM]
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Washington Post:

President Bush this morning proudly signed into law a bill that critics consider one of the most un-American in the nation's long history.

The new law vaguely bans torture -- but makes the administration the arbiter of what is torture and what isn't. It allows the president to imprison indefinitely anyone he decides falls under a wide-ranging new definition of unlawful combatant. It suspends the Great Writ of habeas corpus for detainees. It allows coerced testimony at trial. It immunizes retroactively interrogators who may have engaged in torture.

ACLU:

The president can now - with the approval of Congress - indefinitely hold people without charge, take away protections against horrific abuse, put people on trial based on hearsay evidence, authorize trials that can sentence people to death based on testimony literally beaten out of witnesses, and slam shut the courthouse door for habeas petitions. Nothing could be further from the American values we all hold in our hearts than the Military Commissions Act.
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[User Picture]From: [info]substitute
Tue, 17-Oct-2006 11:34 PM (UTC)

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Meathook & You: Partners in Freedom!
[User Picture]From: [info]sfmusiconline
Tue, 17-Oct-2006 11:36 PM (UTC)

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[User Picture]From: [info]goawaystupidai
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:17 AM (UTC)

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And the rest of america will be too distracted by [insert popular reality TV show here] to care in 3... 2... 1...

Love the "Secret Surveillance Painting" reference.

But seriously, what to do? Not like Congress cares. I've sent letters to senators, but they didn't include the phat sacks of cash required for them to care. How do you make a corrupt government govern itself?
From: [info]dsgood
Tue, 17-Oct-2006 11:47 PM (UTC)

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I would love to see these rules applied to Federal impeachment.
[User Picture]From: [info]thedimka
Tue, 17-Oct-2006 11:48 PM (UTC)

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that's what reactionists do
[User Picture]From: [info]babbage
Tue, 17-Oct-2006 11:54 PM (UTC)

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Well, Habeas Corpus has been established for at least 800 years (it predates Magna Carta). Three times longer than the USA has been with us. I guess that Habeas Corpus will probably live another 800 years, too. Common Law is too influential for America's dumb example to lead to the loss of this cornerstone of liberty.

Another reason not to live there. At least, not right now.

[User Picture]From: [info]flipzagging
Tue, 17-Oct-2006 11:55 PM (UTC)

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One of the terrorists believed to have planned the 9/11 attacks said he hoped the attacks would be the beginning of the end of America. He didn't get his wish.


-- George W. Bush, upon signing the Military Commissions Act of 2006 into law.
[User Picture]From: [info]nightrider
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:12 AM (UTC)

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I heard that this morning and winced.
[User Picture]From: [info]grumpy_sysadmin
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 1:14 AM (UTC)

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Sure, why settle for just the beginning.
[User Picture]From: [info]valacosa
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 5:26 AM (UTC)

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I'm sorry, my irony detector just pegged. I think I need to replace it with one that has a greater range...
[User Picture]From: [info]merovingian
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:09 AM (UTC)

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I am an eternal optimist. Maybe the Supreme Court can save us.
[User Picture]From: [info]nightrider
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:15 AM (UTC)

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"Why the World Needs Superman"
[User Picture]From: [info]lars_larsen
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:35 AM (UTC)

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I think the whole idea here is you cant appeal anything, so it'll never get to the supreme court.
[User Picture]From: [info]nightrider
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:11 AM (UTC)

"I'm gonna sing the 'doom song' now, K?"

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U.S. Constitution: "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." (Article One, section nine).


Ummm... Yeah, RIGHT.

As Keith Olbermann pointed out earlier last week, the Bill of Rights has been abolished by the stroke of GWB's pen.

This is only a very slight exaggeration. All but one of the items on the bill of rights has been affected by this new law. So, here's your new Bill of Rights, America:
"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
I think Jello Biafra put it best, "Welcome to nineteen eighty-four..."


From: [info]naelp
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 12:36 AM (UTC)

Re: "I'm gonna sing the 'doom song' now, K?"

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The US is under invasion by the terrorists, therefore it is permitted!
[User Picture]From: [info]jmissig
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 1:03 AM (UTC)

Ze Frank bids farewell to Sir Habeas Corpus

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the show with zefrank, 09-29-06

"Yesterday's obituaries mourned the death of Sir Habeas Corpus.
Born in the UK in 1679 to parents Mama and Magna Carta, Sir Corpus is said to have enjoyed horseback riding and Othello. Originally the King's bitch, Sir Corpus made his name by forcing prisoners to testify in pending trials.

After a short but nearly fatal bout of colitis, he changed his strategy and began protecting individuals from arbitrary detention by the state.

Having emigrated to the United States in the late 1700s, Mr. Corpus continued to argue that prisoners should have their day in court to determine whether they're being lawfully imprisoned.

In recent years, Mr. Corpus' tactics of trying to protect the innocents have come under fire by the current White House. U.S. President Bush has referred to the elderly statesman as uppity and old-fashioned. Mr. Corpus is said to have been particularly upset by the recent deportation and torture of Canadian citizen Mr. Maher Arar. The U.S. sent Mr. Arar to Syria despite the fact that Canadian investigators said that they could find no evidence linking Mr. Arar to terrorist groups.

Yesterday Mr. Habeas Corpus was found dead in his Washington apartment, having been stabbed sixty-five times in the back. Mr. Corpus leaves behind Mrs. Corpus and three hundred million children.

Please send condolences and flowers to yourself."
[User Picture]From: [info]abstractstuff
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 2:04 AM (UTC)

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I've been pretty shocked at how few people know or care about this. My girlfriend even works with someone who tried to explain that it's all ok because it only applies to enemy combatants and non-citizens (that's me!).

Oh well, there's still (a little) hope to be had if you look in the right places...
[User Picture]From: [info]grumpy_sysadmin
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 2:36 AM (UTC)

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You're an enemy combatant?
[User Picture]From: [info]edouardp
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 3:14 AM (UTC)

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> My girlfriend even works with someone who tried to
> explain that it's all ok because it only applies to enemy
> combatants and non-citizens (that's me!).

That seems fair. I mean this is about protecting Americans, right? And it's not as if the state can revoke US citizenship.

Oh, hang on. Actually, you know what? Forget what I said...
[User Picture]From: [info]edouardp
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 2:29 AM (UTC)

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Well it's not like this is the first time the President of the United States has removed Habeas Corpus. Licoln did it twice. Davis in the south did it too. And Wikipedia says that President Grant did as well.

But, seriously, you only need to worry if you don't support the war. After all, what did that greatest of Americans, Abraham Lincoln, do? He merely rounded up thousands of anti-war protesters. Oh and anyone who opposed conscription. And, ahh, I believe, people who criticized the President's violation of the constituion.

So nothing for all you loyal citizens to worry about then.

I'm sure it'll be re-instated once you've won the War on Terror. How's that going for you, by the way?
From: [info]treptoplax
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 3:07 AM (UTC)

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Lincoln? How about FDR? Japanese-American internment camps, anyone?
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[User Picture]From: [info]siobhan1
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 4:19 AM (UTC)

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Ok - this is the most depressing piece of news to read at 6.17 am, before breakfast.

I mean - I'm glad to *know* it happened, but I'd rather it hadn't happened. Makes sense?
[User Picture]From: [info]transgress
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 4:29 AM (UTC)

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I'm not surprised, the bigger question though is, is bush to the US as ceasar was to rome?

Also, Lincoln suspended habeus corpus during the civil war
[User Picture]From: [info]cemeteryconsort
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 6:43 PM (UTC)

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They did it. The Terrorist won! They destroyed America, by making us so paranoid that we burned the rights our founding fathers died for. Thanks George Bush! Thanks Congress!
[User Picture]From: [info]1eyedkunt
Wed, 18-Oct-2006 11:30 PM (UTC)

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what do you think the chances are that the dems put things back the way they were if/when they take the house and senate?