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but is it vegan? [Wed, 12-Jul-2006 12:44 PM]
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GM spray could keep dentist at bay

A single dental treatment that involves spraying genetically-modified bacteria into a patient's mouth could cut the risk of cavities by up to 90%. The spray, which could be on the market in as little as three years and should last a lifetime, contains bacteria similar to that found naturally in the mouth - with one crucial difference. The natural bacteria, streptococcus mutans, produces lactic acid that eats away at teeth, causing decay, whereas the GM bacteria does not. Planting the new form inside the mouth means the natural kind cannot get a foothold, so only one application would ever be needed.
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[User Picture]From: [info]shmivejournal
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 7:56 PM (UTC)

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Good luck trying to find a dentist that will administer something that will make him obsolete.
[User Picture]From: [info]curgoth
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:00 PM (UTC)

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Fluoridated water has made cavities almost obsolete for most people my age (late 20s) already. Dentists have branched out into pimping whitening treatments, etc. to compensate for the difference already.
[User Picture]From: [info]freiheit
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:03 PM (UTC)

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Probably worth the trip to Mexico...
From: [info]kfringe
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:09 PM (UTC)

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How does this affect the purity of my precious bodily fluids?
[User Picture]From: [info]jwz
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:10 PM (UTC)

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They are no longer your precious bodily fluids, they have been replaced by exact duplicates while you slept.
[User Picture]From: [info]elegantelbow
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:13 PM (UTC)

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Perhaps you'll need to re-spray after every course of antibiotics.
[User Picture]From: [info]alex_victory
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:21 PM (UTC)

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Other things to think about... if you get this treatement and then spit into a lake that contains streptococcus mutans, eventually all the old bateria in that lake will be replaced by the new bacteria, right?

And why even get the spray? Just make out with someone else who got it.
[User Picture]From: [info]7ghent
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:26 PM (UTC)

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Excellent point. Also, could be a very effective pickup line.

Hey baby, want my genetically modified salivary bacteria?
[User Picture]From: [info]dougo
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 9:44 PM (UTC)

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Dude, it's not ice-9.
[User Picture]From: [info]dojothemouse
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 10:55 PM (UTC)

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Recent trials involve couples where they only treat one person. They're hoping it doesn't spread to anyone else's mouth.
[User Picture]From: [info]kimberley66
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 8:49 PM (UTC)

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One has to wonder what the effects of this treatment would be for those receiving oral sex from people that have undergone this particular treatment. . . .mutant bacterial on ones genitals might not be a good thing. . . . .
[User Picture]From: [info]jwz
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 9:00 PM (UTC)

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That was a plot element in both Blood Music by Greg Bear and 0wnz0red by Cory Doctorow (both of which are great).
[User Picture]From: [info]semiclever
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 9:53 PM (UTC)

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I don't think these particular mutant bacteria are going to be doing anything different on your genitals than the regular kind.
[User Picture]From: [info]1423
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 8:33 AM (UTC)

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Yup, lactic acid is supposed to prevent thrush. Looks like future generations will all have sparkling white teeth and itchy crotches.
From: [info]ygg13
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 9:44 PM (UTC)

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I wish they had that earlier, I'm 23 and I have an average of two and a half fillings in each tooth and the condition of my teeth is this morbid thing because teeth never get stronger, only weaker.
[User Picture]From: [info]dojothemouse
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 10:57 PM (UTC)

Cross your fingers, bra.

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[User Picture]From: [info]fantasygoat
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 10:03 PM (UTC)

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One treatment? How can that be profitable?

I suspect the lag time is so they can figure out how to make it a weekly application.
From: [info]cjensen
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 1:57 AM (UTC)

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Is LASIK profitable?

Unless the GM bacterial kill the non-GM bacteria, you'd eventually get some reintroduction of the naturally occurring bacteria (yeah, I know the article says otherwise, but I ain't buying). So you'd need to reapply the GM bacteria periodically.
[User Picture]From: [info]baconmonkey
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 10:30 PM (UTC)

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and how long before the dental equivalent of the RIAA and MPAA starts suing people who get that treatment? I can't wait til the PSA ads start appearing before movies discouraging it as a frankenstein monster.
[User Picture]From: [info]nightrider
Wed, 12-Jul-2006 11:25 PM (UTC)

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Or, you just get sued for making out with someone who's got the mutant bacteria...
Excuse me sir, but do you have a registration code for that genetically modified spit you're carrying around?
ZZZORRRRT!
[User Picture]From: [info]violentbloom
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 12:18 AM (UTC)

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so it's not exactly the lactic acid that is the problem in tooth decay. Lactic acid is produced in a number of ways by the body, in example it's a by product when you excercise and the body burns off lactate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptococcus_mutans
"Along with S. sobrinus, S. mutans plays a major role in tooth decay, metabolizing sucrose to lactic acid.[2] The acidic environment created in the mouth by this process is what causes the highly mineralized tooth enamel to be vulnerable to decay. The microbe was first described by JK Clark in 1924. S. mutans is one of a few specialized organisms equipped with receptors for adhesion to the surface of teeth. Sucrose is utilized by S. mutans to produce a sticky, extracellular, dextran-based polysaccharide that allows them to cohere to each other forming plaque. S. mutans produces dextran via the enzyme dextransucrase using sucrose as a substrate in the following reaction:"
[User Picture]From: [info]shephi
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 1:29 AM (UTC)

re: vegan

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in traditional I_dont_get_the_joke fashion:
nearly everything manmade is unvegan on somelevel. most vegans have thought through thresholds which sketch out what they'll avoid. bacteria itself is vegan to all living vegans, as otherwise they'd be dead. some hippies have problems with GM, and some have problems with animal testing which was likely used for developing the bacterium, and otherthings, so on those particular thresholds perhaps this particular bacterium is unvegan. my vegan verdict is spray me up scottie.

anyway, I think every mention of dental hygiene should involve a rendition of how Nat Friedman fucked up his teeth, have you heard that story? if you have you missed the boat.
[User Picture]From: [info]lars_larsen
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 5:09 AM (UTC)

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I've bought my dentist WAY more sportscars than Nat ever did.
[User Picture]From: [info]msjen
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 2:56 AM (UTC)

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Your vexing vegan questions are keeping me up at night. Please stop, thank you very much.

Sincerely, Ms. Jen

PS Yes.
From: [info]babynutcase
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 10:03 AM (UTC)

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Yes

Bacteria are plants. Do we say "intestinal fauna"?
[User Picture]From: [info]bitpuddle
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 3:14 AM (UTC)

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I'm pro-cavity.
From: [info]babynutcase
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 10:02 AM (UTC)

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I put two or three drops of tea tree oil on my toothbrush. Wipes out everything.
[User Picture]From: [info]freiheit
Thu, 13-Jul-2006 4:19 PM (UTC)

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So, if I've got a hot date and use a bit too much mouthwash will I kill all the expensive leased GM bacteria in my mouth and need a reapplication?

What about drinking too much really good bourbon?