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I love why "Coordinated Universal Time" (or, in French, "temps universel coordonné") is abbreviated UTC: so that it wouldn't be accurate in either French or English.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/54541970/2) | From: brad Sat, 31-Dec-2005 3:20 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, I love international compromises. Just like how (iirc?) ATM's frame size was a split between 64 bytes and 32 bytes. Japan wanted 32 bytes to reduce latency, so they wouldn't have to deal with adding echo cancellation hardware, but the US, a big country with lots of distance/latency already had echo cancellation everywhere, so they wanted more bandwidth. So ATM frames are like 53 bytes.
Likewise, the Copyright Royalty Arbitration Panel in the USA (which assigns royalties for compulsory music licenses) was renamed the Copyright Arbitration Royalty Panel. I suspect someone was worried about the acronym.
For similar reasons, the Canadian Reform Alliance Party was renamed very quickly.
From: sfritz Sun, 1-Jan-2006 5:17 AM (UTC)
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Really, is Carp any better?
They split it evenly down the middle: the payload is 48 bytes. The headers bring it up to 53 bytes. The story (straight out of this textbook) is here. In fact, it looks like the whole textbook is online...
We should change the English name just to spite them: Universal Time (Coordinated)
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/2949189/725716) | From: pne Sat, 31-Dec-2005 11:28 AM (UTC)
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Which is, apparently, roughly where the term "UTC" comes from.
At any rate, an explanation I've seen indicates that, like UT1, it's a kind of UT, specifically a coordinated UT -- using a subscript, as in UTC captures the idea. Only they use normal letters: UTC.
And talking of compromises between English and French: having the International Organisation for Standardisation have the short name ISO is also interesting... though I believe they claim it's not an acronym but is derived from the Greek morpheme iso-.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/1471429/525123) | From: psr Mon, 2-Jan-2006 5:04 PM (UTC)
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I read somewhere that iso is so named because it means "the same" not only in English and French, but also in Russian.
I wanted to punch someone when I heard the explanation of ISO. Like most people, I thought it was the International Standards Organization. Nope. It's the International Organization for Standardization. And ISO isn't even an acronym. It's "iso" as in the Greek derived prefix "iso-", as in isometric. Meaning the same.
Remember, if you live in London (or any place UTC +00:00), you must begin the new years countdown at 23:59:51.
(You'll be the hit of the party when you try explaining that to the other partygoers.)
or you count 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1 "Happy New Year".
or is it 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 "Happy New Year" "Happy New Year" ? eg twice the amount of kissing random strangers and drinking too much booze.
here in spain everyone has to eat a grape with each of the twelve sounds of the clock, which can be very tricky.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/28861217/5636007) | From: fgmr Sat, 31-Dec-2005 11:22 PM (UTC)
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You'll be the hit of the party when you try explaining that to the other partygoers. Heh, just like you were the hit in 1999 when you tried to explain that the big celebration should be a year later.
"It can be really hard to know what time it is."
Everytime I attempt to write a program that deals with time/dates, I'm reminded of this fact. It just ends up feeling so... arbitrary.
This is why I dont wear a watch.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/51945842/1675963) | From: bpt Sat, 31-Dec-2005 5:43 AM (UTC)
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The real question: what will you do with your extra second?
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/5887295/515656) | From: jwz Sat, 31-Dec-2005 7:32 AM (UTC)
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Much like the King of All Cosmos, I plan to lose myself in All Nature's Embrace.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/3579948/2422) | From: pyrop Sat, 31-Dec-2005 8:33 AM (UTC)
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daaaaa nanananana na na katamari zawinskii
The gnomes will not be cleaning up the DNA with large absorbent lumpy spheres.
Whatever I'm doing tomorrow, I'm going to use that second to put my hand down my pants.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/31987592/337061) | From: prog Sat, 31-Dec-2005 7:25 AM (UTC)
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I am delighted to learn that there is an organization known as the International Earth Rotation Service. It sounds like, besides publishing calendar recalibration advisories and such, they also take semiannual trips to the poles to solemnly re-oil the axis and make sure everything's bolted down nicely.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/5887295/515656) | From: jwz Sat, 31-Dec-2005 7:27 AM (UTC)
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It is, truly, one of the best names ever.
From: jwjr Sat, 31-Dec-2005 11:30 PM (UTC)
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The whole system is full of wonderful names. The US part, which participates through the US Naval Observatory, is the "US Earth Orientation Service". I think any "Earth Orientation Service" is a close second to an "Earth Rotation Service".
Also splendid, in a different sense, is the name of the division that actually figures out what's happening right now for people keeping track of satellites or the like: "IERS Rapid Service/Prediction Center for Earth Orientation Parameters". It sounds like it came straight out of 1940s science fiction.
"Where is our satellite at this very moment, Chet?"
"Hang on one minute boss-- once I get the boys at the Rapid Service Prediction Center on the horn to find out the latest Earth orientation parameters, I should be able to tell you down to the inch!"
How many IRS agents visit themevery year when they put their occupation down on their taxes? "No, really... I am time cop, in a manner of speaking."
The definitive, doorstop-sized reference for all this is the modestly titled 'Explanatory Supplement to the Astronomical Almanac'. Eight hundred pages of the actual details.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/1938/4354) | From: spike Sat, 31-Dec-2005 2:19 PM (UTC)
if( tm_sec == 60) { | (Link)
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I wonder how many programmers didn't know that struct tm.tm_sec can == 60. Sadly, we may find out. Or perhaps more sadly, we won't. }
Either way, enjoy the extra time tonight!
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/26092556/2285859) | From: cabrius Sat, 31-Dec-2005 6:33 PM (UTC)
Re: if( tm_sec == 60) { | (Link)
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Earlier this year I did some code that did some sanity checking on various bits of data, and for a date/time type I let the seconds go up to 61, as permitted by localtime(3) (on Linux, anyway).
It took me a while before I noticed that a coworker had changed it to a plain 0-59 check, so I had to change it again and added a comment this time.
I guess it wasn't as common knowledge as I thought...
From: chetfarmer Sat, 31-Dec-2005 3:18 PM (UTC)
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I didn't know the title or author at the time, but I saw "Paladin" on TV once. It also exists as a first-season episode of the mid-80s "Twilight Zone" revival. Danny Kaye is the old man.
As I was walking down the street one day, a man came up to me and asked me what the time was that was on my watch, yeah, and I said; "Does anybody really know what time it is?" You made me quote Chicago, god damn you to hell.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/4040690/795275) | From: airmax Sun, 1-Jan-2006 4:50 PM (UTC)
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ever exist in all IT - date/time conversions.
For the f. reasons shouldn't we just divide simple "UNIX ticks" by 60 twice to get the real time? huh?
If time value floats, then also the volt and amper do, and are those pedantic dummies REALLY sure that incrementing the machine clock once a seven years get them REAL value, not distorted by other physical values and constants floating as well.
stupid and error prone strategy
I am happy to report that the http://www.time.gov/ service correctly displayed 23:59:60.
syslogd—POSIX really—fails it:
Dec 31 15:59:59 evanescence kernel: Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC
At my Local University the first-year phyics lab manual - in an attempt to enlighten those few students who actually read it - opens the chapter on accuracy and precision with the text
A man with one watch always knows the time. A man with two watches is never sure.
It can also be really hard to know what a Planet is. I discovered this over Christmas break, whilst idly wondering whether that whole "is Pluto still a planet" thing had been figured out. It's way more complicated than I expected. | |