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Some movies I've seen recently:

The Hole:

    A group of private-school students end up trapped in an underground bunker, and a shrink tries to get the story of what happened out of one of the girls (Thora Birch, who is great). The story is re-told several times, Rashomon-like, and it gets uglier with each telling. It's very tense, and I liked it a lot.

Monster:

    Charlize Theron plays an ageing tweaker prostitute who, while trying to provide for her needy, underage girlfriend (Christina Ricci) gives up prostitution in favor of murdering johns. Theron won an Oscar for this, and it was well-deserved. She's amazingly creepy and believable.

Shaun of the Dead:

    I put off seeing this for a long time because, fan of zombies though I am, I thought the preview looked really, really stupid. I didn't even smile at one of the jokes in it. But, the movie is actually pretty entertaining!

Falling Down:

    I had never seen this, and every now and then it would come up and someone would say, "you haven't seen Falling Down? It's a classic!" Well, I'm sorry, people, your memories of this movie far outstrip its quality. It is complete garbage. It is wall-to-wall clichés, starting with "it is Hero Cop's last day before retirement" and going downhill from there. The racial stereotypes were especially bad: I kept remembering a scene in Hollywood Shuffle where Robert Townsend was trying out for a role, and they kept asking him to act "more black". This could have been the movie he was thinking fun of!

    The movie is an extended revenge-fantasy, but it's the fantasy of a writer who is just a dick.

    I was ready to stop watching after about 10 minutes, but my friend was captivated by the sights of the early 90s LA strip malls and freeway construction. I didn't know you could be nostalgic for that kind of thing, but apparently you can.

Transporter 2:

    Dumb fun. Not as good as the first one (which was... not great, but entertaining.) Very near the beginning, a skinny blonde woman dressed as a nurse rips open her coat and proceeds to aerate the building with machine guns while wearing only soaking wet lingerie. That kind of sets the tone for the rest of movie. There is some decent fight choreography. Unfortunately there's also a precocious child, and an almost complete disregard for the laws of physics. The level boss ending is somewhat anticlimactic.

The Exorcism of Emily Rose:

    A girl dies during an exorcism, and the priest is on trial for murder. The story is told mainly in flashbacks to the big event. This was pretty good; it was suspenseful without too many spring-loaded cats. It was interesting how the telling of the story managed to remain fairly noncommital on the question of "was it demons, or epilepsy?"

    But man, religious people are weird. It always seems like they've heard of Occam's Razor, but they just don't quite get how it works! They kept saying things like, "God allows people to be posessed to prove to others that God exists". Well you know what, if God really wanted to prove that he existed, I don't think he'd have any trouble doing that, being God and all. Instead of making a statue bleed in front of some backwoods hick, why not make ten thousand statues bleed at the same time? It's fuckin' God! So the obvious, clichéd answer to that is that God doesn't actually want to provide proof, because he wants people to have faith (AKA "believing something for no reason at all"). In which case, posession proves nothing except that, well, God's kinda mean.

    In fact, providing proof of God would be more up the Devil's alley, wouldn't it? Proof would destroy faith. So is God skulking around like the Men In Black covering up Satan's spoilers?

    Also there was some nonsense about 3AM being "the witching hour" because Jesus came back from the dead at 3PM. Which immediately made me ask, what time zone is God in? And does he follow Daylight Savings Time?

    Maybe I could just Google this, but why are Catholics always seeing Mary instead of Jesus? Is she like the Press Secretary or something? Or is she more like Karl Rove?

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[User Picture]From: [info]40hex
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 6:27 AM (UTC)

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We can't have God disappearing in a puff of logic now can we?
[User Picture]From: [info]substitute
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 6:43 AM (UTC)

The bit on the golf course I sorta liked

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Re: Falling Down. I remember seeing that movie while living in L.A. in the 90s and thinking 1) Yeah, this is kind of a documentary about pissed-off white people here and 2) The Korean liquor store clerk has a BEARD! Who the hell ever saw a Korean liquor store clerk with a beard?

Re: 3 am. I really liked the opening of Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes where the evil carnival train arrives at 3 am and he talks about the witching hour. But that's a fantastic fable. In a courtroom drama I'd be thinking "timezone issues. God should use UTC, but what if the Devil rebelliously insists on PST or Indiana/Starke or something? And do either of them observe Daylight Savings? Maybe some supermetagod has an NTP server and..."
[User Picture]From: [info]flipping_hades
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 6:47 AM (UTC)

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Damnit, I'd managed to forget "Falling Down". My reaction to that was "What the fuck? I was told this was *good*", and then sleeping through the remainder of the movie.
[User Picture]From: [info]rivetpepsquad
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 7:15 AM (UTC)

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so how was the shrink portrayal in the hole? therapist portrayal in film always intrigues (read: enrages) me.

i can't believe i saw a movie (shaun of the dead) BEFORE you--and MULTIPLE times, at that. what's HAPPENING?

have wanted to see monster. now must.
[User Picture]From: [info]ciphergoth
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 7:41 AM (UTC)

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I think Theron's performance in Monster is the best acting I have seen in a film ever. Certainly I can't think of anything to top it.
[User Picture]From: [info]fo0bar
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 7:17 AM (UTC)

Shaun of the Dead

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I liked the first 2/3rds of the movie. It held true to the tagline ("A romantic comedy. With zombies."). But once they all got to the bar, I imagined this conversation between the filmmakers:

"Wait, wasn't this supposed to be a horror movie?"
"Yeah, I think so."
"Crap."
"Oh, and we still have all of the cast alive."
"I know! We'll kill off everybody but the 2 main characters in the next 5 minutes!"
"Brilliant!"

The ending rescue was a total cop out, which I guess would have been funny anyways, but I still had a bitter taste in my mouth from previous gripe.
[User Picture]From: [info]quercus
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 1:41 PM (UTC)

Re: Shaun of the Dead

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I don't remember the end of SotD - I was still laughing from "Don't Stop Me Now".


(half of my fl (the London Goths) were zombie extras in SotD)
[User Picture]From: [info]sierra_nevada
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 7:53 AM (UTC)

Re: The Virgin Mary

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Have you ever seen Pecker? John Waters did a send-up of the Virgin Mary cultists in there, among other things.
[User Picture]From: [info]momomoto
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 10:35 AM (UTC)

Re: The Virgin Mary

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And that part of the movie was its only redeeming quality! Well, that and the teabagging.
[User Picture]From: [info]alex_victory
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 7:54 AM (UTC)

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Falling Down is one of those movies that's shaped by your expectations of it. If you're expecting great cinema, you're disappointed. If you're expecting a typical Lethal Weapon-style action flick, it's a fantastic surprise.
From: [info]nikborton
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 8:44 AM (UTC)

Re: Shaun of the Dead

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While not getting what you expect might be a surprise, getting Falling Down instead of Lethal Weapon is definitely not fantastic.
From: [info]idcmp
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 7:56 AM (UTC)

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If memory serves, Monster is based on the story of the only (first?) female serial killer to date.

The guys who did Shaun of the Dead also had a sitcom that was on the BBC called Spaced.

[User Picture]From: [info]momomoto
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 10:36 AM (UTC)

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And Spaced is a retardedly good show, and should be watched by everybody.

[User Picture]From: [info]fnoo
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 8:12 AM (UTC)

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Falling Down is like SpaceBalls - everybody saw it when they were much younger than they are now and thought it was much better than it was.

I remember loving it - but I also remember being about fifteen or so and thinking that Trent Reznor truly understood my feelings.
[User Picture]From: [info]sixty4k
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 4:57 PM (UTC)

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Are you trying to say that the trent doesn't still truely understand our feelings?

[User Picture]From: [info]strangehours
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 9:15 AM (UTC)

If memory serves...

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Themroc is similar to Falling Down, but better.
[User Picture]From: [info]inhumandecency
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 9:19 AM (UTC)

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Mary is like the friendly, cigar-chomping hometown representative who knows the people back home and will carry their stories up to the president. That's basically what all the saints, with their specialized constituencies, are as well. Modern Protestantism generally envisions God the Father as awesome and incomprehensible, and Jesus as kindhearted and human. However, medieval Catholicism envisioned Jesus as being nearly as terrifying as his father: he was the one who would sit in judgment of the good and the evil in the end times, and he had no tolerance for sin. Mary was the human one who was understanding and forgiving, so she's the one people wanted to unload on. If you needed to ask God for something, you could ask her and she'd try to work it out of him.
[User Picture]From: [info]strspn
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 10:18 AM (UTC)

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To the extent that God reveals God's self, only the agnostic are truly faithful.
[User Picture]From: [info]king_mob
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 10:33 AM (UTC)

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I thought Shaun of the Dead was the greatest movie I'd ever seen. Better than Citizen Kane.
[User Picture]From: [info]taffer
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 3:32 PM (UTC)

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Immediately after watching it, I declared Shaun of the Dead to be the best movie of 2004.

"We're coming to get you, Barbara!"
From: [info]wilecoyote
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 10:34 AM (UTC)

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Interesting that you say that "The exorcism of Emily Rose" is fair & balanced. I read David Edelstein's review, in which he described it as a bible-thumper's wet dream, and it managed to put me off entirely.

As for the rest: "Falling down" is a classic? In which alternate universe? Now "The hole", *that* would deserve to be one... (incidentally, Keira Knightley was in it too, as the other girl in the group).


[User Picture]From: [info]jwz
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 10:49 AM (UTC)

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I didn't say "fair and balanced", I said they walked the line between the two possible conclusions. I wouldn't consider walking the line between logic and prehistoric superstition to be a reasonable place to walk out here in the real world, but I went to see a horror movie, not a documentary. I thought it was entertaining.
[User Picture]From: [info]shmivejournal
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 1:40 PM (UTC)

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This may/may not be interesting.

I started out with a rant and I ended up with a poll... that is essentially a rant masked as a poll. It's rather freaky what percentage of people truly believe in what things, though -- and this is people who can operate a computer, mind you -- that's a huge hurdle.



[User Picture]From: [info]cyeh
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 1:47 PM (UTC)

falling down... 6 th grade symbolism

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Falling Down was about as a subtle as a lead pipe.

Gee, he starts out wearing white but by the end of the movie, he's wearing a black jump suit and then has to ask another character "Am I the bad guy?"

Note Hollywood: I know that you consider most of the movie-watching public stupid. But please, I beg you, don't try and get all symbolism-fancy on us in a summer film. It's just painful.

[User Picture]From: [info]gremlingirl
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 2:32 PM (UTC)

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When we were kids, my sister asked my grandma why Catholics prayed to Mary instead of Jesus, and I told her that Mary was like Jesus' secretary, and all the prayers ended up on "While You Were Out" notes.
[User Picture]From: [info]kyronfive
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 8:16 PM (UTC)

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That's sort of true. Catholics don't technically pray *to* Mary, they pray for Mary's intercession with God/Jesus. It's sort of like calling the boss's secretary and asking her nicely to pull some strings with the big guy.
[User Picture]From: [info]bbsy
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 3:34 PM (UTC)

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Er...the way I've always had it explained to me is that God allows the devil to do things to you. For whatever reason. Which is illustrated in one instance at the beginning of the book of Job.
[User Picture]From: [info]sclatter
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 6:07 PM (UTC)

Virgin Mary

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I think Jesus showing up means it's the end of the world. Mary showing up means Mom's just checking in.

(FWIW, I'm a convert, so I may have it wrong.)

Sarah
[User Picture]From: [info]kyronfive
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 8:14 PM (UTC)

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<i.Maybe I could just Google this, but why are Catholics always seeing Mary instead of Jesus?</i>

Because the Catholics are the only ones who really pay attention to Mary. In Protestant religions, she's there, but nobody really spends a whole lot of time thinking about her. For the Protestants, having Mary show up somewhere would be kind of like having Simon Peter show up. They'd be all like, "uh, where's JC?" She's important enough in Catholic iconology that if she shows up it's all like, "hey, it's Mary!"

In layman's terms, the Protestants classify her as a C-list celeb while the Catholics would rate her an A.
[User Picture]From: [info]silveryblu
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 8:33 PM (UTC)

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... nostalgic for *home* that is, which just happens to be composed mainly of strip malls and under-construction freeways.

"oh honey, remember the time we were sitting in traffic while the cops chased that crack addict across the street into that *very* strip mall there, guns drawn in broad daylight? Those were the days. Wasn't that when they were just finishing the 105 overpass on the 110?"

[User Picture]From: [info]defenestr8r
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 9:05 PM (UTC)

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i can't believe you neglected to mention Eternal!

(and the corpse bride, but the Eternal commentary was bound to be good).

[User Picture]From: [info]jwz
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 9:18 PM (UTC)

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Doh! How could I have forgotten. Added to the list for next round.
[User Picture]From: [info]melt212
Thu, 15-Sep-2005 9:44 PM (UTC)

catholics

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I went to catholic school through 4th grade and I used to wonder the same thing about Mary. It was explained to me that she was human, not divine, and she understood humanity and mother's love and that sort of thing. She is one of us. As such, she makes a good advocate to God and a good emmisary from God.
Jesus always confused me though. Why pray to Jesus when you can pray to God? No good reason. His job was a 33 year temp position that ended 2000 years ago. He has said all he's going to say. And if you buy into the holy trinity, he's not even a distinct entity, just a historical curiosity.
I've also always understood that God never provides proof, but he might occasionally deliver messages to people who will listen. And satan just provides a backdrop against which God makes sense to us.
But it's been a long time since I've studied these things as a catholic true-believer.
From: [info]babynutcase
Fri, 16-Sep-2005 1:52 PM (UTC)

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Anyone else see Save The Green Planet? There were only four other people in the theater and one of them was just there to sleep. I was the only one who laughed out loud at this movie despite it being so utterly insane.

I thought it was Japanese until the ending credits showed it was Korean of all things.
From: [info]irma_vep
Mon, 19-Sep-2005 12:48 AM (UTC)

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Charlize Theron gave a great performance, but the movie itself really disturbed me. Abused as a child. tormented and used as a teenager and young adult, and brutally raped by a man, would it suprise anyone that she became a twisted, serial killer of men ?
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