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I am so horrified and outraged right now it is beyond words.
From: babynutcase Fri, 2-Sep-2005 4:23 AM (UTC)
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I love that Condoleeza Rice story. So . . so Bush Administration Just to help the incredulity further, there's proof that the Bush Administration actually diverted money away from funds the US Corps of Engineers needed to improve and strengthen the New Orleans levees back in 2004 and the spring of this year - because he needed the money for the war in Iraq and Bush's tax cuts. Article is here But here's a quote: The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars. To put it another way, New Orleans is a casualty of the war in Iraq. I'm sure the citizens of the area will be thrilled to find out that things didn't have to turn out as bad as they are now.
The second part you posted is quite interesting, but I'm a little curious about this whole Conoleeza Rice thing and why everyone's paying so much more attention. What does the Secretary of State have to do with this matter?
True, it's a little uncouth to be out shopping at a time like this, but I'm curious to know what Michael Leavitt is doing since this he's the guy who'd be in charge of this sort of thing.
That there are people still inside the city waiting to be evacuated speaks more to the gross ineptitude of the federal government far more than any anti-war protestor, Michael Moore film, or MoveOn e-mail ever could. But maybe we can code the levels of security around NOLA with that DHS cutesy color-coding scheme? Red for people in need of immediate rescue, orange for people who are only in impending danger of being raped and murdered? Let's have a few meetings about this.
Everyone should have been out of the city on Tuesday.
I think you underestimate the logistical difficultly of moving 50,000+ people out of a flooded city with severely damaged transportation infrastructure.
From: dasht_brk Thu, 1-Sep-2005 7:52 PM (UTC)
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What's a matter wid de regional responders? They got a brain cramp or sumpin? Oh.. wait, if its fed's fault you can bash bush. ok, I get it.
-t
I have a few hypotheses about the "shots fired" thing, but it's all just speculation. The thing that's really weighing on my mind at the moment is the possiblity that 50k +/- 20k people are about to die of thirst. On television.
Nobody on the ground there seems to have any faith in the evacuation efforts, and doing quick Fermi calculations as to how long it would take to evacuate everyone if they started now and moved fast are making my blood run cold.
I was surprised not to see this summary on jwz's list. You're not the only one doing those calculations, or being chilled by them.
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/62361522/385978) | From: pfrank Thu, 1-Sep-2005 6:53 PM (UTC)
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I would not be surprised if zombies started crawling out of the bayou.
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From: node Fri, 2-Sep-2005 3:35 PM (UTC)
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From: dasht_brk Thu, 1-Sep-2005 7:47 PM (UTC)
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Let's understand the extreme embarassment of the NOLA upper and ruling classes at this mess: their long-standing indifference to the underclass and their stunning unwillingness to self-tax to prepare for this inevitable disaster are now laid bare for the entire world to see.
What a pleasing distraction, then, for their representatives to be able to spin a yarn about how unreasonable the suffering are.
Don't get me wrong: I don't think these folks are any different from folks elsewhere in the U.S. I don't think they *intend* to be racist and classist. I think they simply inherited institutions and attitudes emerging out of intentional racism and classism and were ineffectual in critical self-examination and response -- so now the rest of the world gets to do the post mortem.
Gee, I wonder how prepared my region (the bay area) really is for The Big One. Probably just about as well. We certainly equipped with a comparable neglected underclass.
My favorite impolitic CNN moment is the one where the McMansion owners, ordered to evacuate when there is forseeable congestion, happily report their "wisdom" at packing the SUV with mom, the kids, and snacks for a day or two while dad saves the car as a single-occupancy vehicle. Way to go!
-t
I'm sure that we're blocking the Canadian Red Cross aid for fear that they might bring us some of those dangerous and unsafe Canadian Prescription Drugs. We can't have that!
Actually, DHS couldn't figure out how to classify "Canadian bacon".
I just posted this to my own journal... I think it sums up my frustration: (And I'm aware the situation is more complicated than this, lack of communication and information is a major part of the problem...)
A few days ago the US Army Corps of Engineers was dropping 1,000 pound sandbags to try to fix the levees after they had broke.
Today, they're using 3,000 pound sandbags to try to fix the levee.
Sandbags.
The thought occurs that perhaps a few 3,000 pound drops of foodbags might be significantly more effective, considering that the levee's are already broken and even if the levees were completely fixed, it would take weeks to empty out the city. Yes, there would be some people hording the food. At this point, that is called overhead. Just keep dropping the food until everyone has enough to last a few days.
Fixing the levees should have dropped off the immediate priority list days ago when it was obvious the flooding couldn't be stopped. The priority should be getting food, water, and medicine to these people NOW, and evacuate over the next week.
The sandbags and preformed concrete both failed to help (some claim they actually made the damage worse in places), and once the water leveled with the lake (now essentially equal to the Gulf, since its seawall has also breached) they decided to use more traditional means of repair before trying to resume pumping. Speaking of which, fixing the pumps and getting power back to them is supposedly a month-long problem. For example, he local nuclear reactor is still off-line, not because it's damaged -- it is not damaged at all -- but because the roads to and from it are impassible, and regulations require that be fixed before turning the thing back on.
I met a guy today who has an aunt and her family in the Superdome. They report that food and water were available and plentiful, but temperatures were in the mid-90s most of the past three days, and the toilet facilities they had access are just improvised boards-with-holes over holes to water filled stairwells, which the resulting stench. However, the authorities have managed to get rationed telephone service out, so the rest of their family was able to learn that they're going to go to the Astrodome. So, the Astrodome, at least it will have running water, power and a/c and sanitation, and perhaps even showers. There is also talk about a big telecon center being set up with 1,000 shared phones and clinics.
Of all the comments above, I have to agree with the "why didn't they have supplies of zillions of inflatable rafts at the ready" the most.
I'm just so shocked that the federal government has dropped the ball.
Shocked.
What are the likely consequences (locally and globally) of blowing a 5% of GDP sized hole under the waterline of the US economy?
5%... that number rings a bell... it's coming to me, just a second...
Right! That's the amount we spend on national defense.
Looks like there actually was an attempt to prepare for this in 1977 that was scrapped due to environmental impact protests. Which forces me to admit schadenfreude at this comment to that blog: Wonder how they like the impact on the environment NOW?
what also worries me about this, is how much people will welcome, if not Demand increased federal secuity presence. Clearly this failure illustrates that we have not surrendered enough rights, as disasters can still occur. I'm also rather dismayed at the focus on stopping looters vs. rescuing people, when faced with the follwing: 1. whatever it is, it's probably going to rot, decay, or suffer harsh water damage if it's left alone. 2. what good is a stolen, water-damaged Plasma TV in a city with no power, food, or roads? also: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/01/neworleans/index1.htmlIn contrast, some residents of the French Quarter appear comfortable, well-fed and relaxed. About 150 New Orleans police officers have commandeered the Royal Omni Hotel, part of the international luxury chain of Omni hotels that is housed in an elegant 19th century building, complete with crystal chandeliers and a rooftop pool. "All of the officers that are here, I can tell you in a classical sense, are gladiators," says Capt. Kevin Anderson, commander of the Eighth District of the NOPD (French Quarter). "To be able to put your family's concerns aside to protect the citizens of New Orleans, it's just an awesome job," he says.
Across the street from the Royal Omni at the Eighth District police department, several police officers keep a wary eye on the street with shotguns at the ready, while some fellow officers grill sausage links over charcoal barbecues. They are under strict orders not to communicate with the media. Capt. Anderson does confirm, however, that locations where officers were housed came under gunfire on Tuesday night. No officers were injured. "It is a very dangerous situation that we're in," Anderson says.
Just moments ago at the Ferragamo on 5th Avenue, Condoleeza Rice was seen spending several thousands of dollars on some nice, new shoes. A fellow shopper, unable to fathom the absurdity of Rice's timing, went up to the Secretary and reportedly shouted, "How dare you shop for shoes while thousands are dying and homeless!"
Of course the "fellow shopper" at Ferragamo was buying shoes for the dying and homeless, right?
![[User Picture]](http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/49978321/1526408) | From: darkengobot Fri, 2-Sep-2005 3:07 PM (UTC)
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I'm in Jackson, MS, which under normal circumstances is a major evacuation center for coasties. The problem here is that Katrina--a stone bitch--was still a Cat 1 hurricane when it passed over Jackson--160 miles inland from Gulfport. Even now, 4 days later, half of Jackson is still without power. (I still don't have power at home myself. Luckily I do have power at my studio.) This has caused major problems, such as the 100+ car line I waited in yesterday to fill gas tanks destined for the coast. I'm not sure how this gets to be the fault of the Federal gov't. Well, I guess since they take our taxes with the promises that they'll take care of everybody, that's how it becomes their fault. But realistically, for the Mayor of New Orleans to bitch about help not arriving in a timely fashion... what did he expect? It's his goddamn city, his responsibility. Where was his plan? (As for our city, when our Mayor noticed that a line of cars were lining up for a gas station without power, he arranged to get generators sent there and installed.) I guess it was "talk a lot and then point fingers", which is a shitty plan. If I have a point (and I'm not sure that I do--every thought I've had this week has been disjointed and fleeting, and secondary to my main goal of collecting fuel, water and supplies for my family on the coast in Ocean Springs), it's that Katrina was fucking incredible and unprecedented. Near-total destruction from Slidell, LA to Mobile, AL from the shore to 1/2 mile inland has never been expected. However, FEMA wargamed a hurricane strike on N.O. a year ago. What happened to that? Who did or didn't do what? Too late now: playing pin-the-blame-on-the-donkey won't help, and when the first cop who saw a looter failed to shoot that looter--which should have been posted and generally known public policy in the city in case of a disaster--the officials there lost the initiative and allowed the ground rules to be set by the wrong people. And now we have thousands of troops sent in to police a handful of malcontents. The worst form of waste in this situation is the waste of human participation in rescue and relief efforts, and policing is horribly wasteful of human resources.
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