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Actually, I wasn't reading so carefully earlier .. I know that Butler will do what you want for voicemail, but I have no idea what it does with SMS. Neither I nor my friends use SMS. The Butler documentation says it does the right thing, but I've never tried it.
Natively, the Treo will only play ringtones in AMR and MIDI formats, and I don't believe it supports the addition of user-created ringtones. You'll need to buy Ringo Pro if you want MP3 ringtones. Bluetooth hotsync is very slow, yes. It's slightly faster if you use Missing Sync - but the best solution is just plug the cable in. For AIM, the newly released Mundu 3 is what you want.
doesn't support the addition of user-created WAV-based ringtones, or user-created ringtones at all?
can you reasonably import MIDI files?
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/26104787/6145587) | From: ![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif) lohphat
Tue, 2-Aug-2005 1:55 PM (UTC)
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Make sure you're running the latest firmware beofre you start loading up on apps and data. The stock MMU code had too large a block size and mem was wasted. Head to http://www.palm.com/us/support/ and find if there's an update for your carrier.
Seconded - I did the Cingular update yesterday and went from nearly full to having close to 9MB available. The block size was WAY too big. And the update patched a number of other things too.
Slow sync over Bluetooth is normal -- and worse on my T5 (same architecture as Treo650) because it has several times the storage capacity of Treo650. No real way to fix it because of the relatively low bandwidth and high latency of Bluetooth networks.
Depending on the software load on your Treo (make sure you've got the most recent update for your type), you should have a setting in the Phone application under Menu/Options/General Preferences called "Blink green LED when in coverage". Turn that setting off.
As for ringtones... the browser will let you download MIDI files with a .mid extension and install those directly as ringtones. To get an uncompressed WAV file installed, the easiest way is to email it yourself then open the WAV file as an attachment on the phone. Hotsync isn't registered for them, but the internal phone app is and programs that use the Exchange Manager will let you register WAV files with the phone app.
There's no "Blink green LED" option on my generic GSM Treo 650.
My recollection of a Palm over a serial port is that they take their time to synchronize, even if nothing's changed, mainly because the last part of the process is a backup of the databases. Bluetooth probably excerbates the problem due to the added delays and overhead. The only way of speeding things up would be to use USB. Serial and IrDA woud probably give about the same throughput as Bluetooth, although serial has lesss delays.
Flashing LEDs are not limited to the Treo, as (Sony) Ericsson cellphones do that as well. It's never bothered me, as my phone's (a pre-Sony T39m) way of signalling is to flash the light faster and flash the backlight as well. Each to their own.
BTW, there's a nice collection of freeware available for PalmOS. Some of the stuff I've come across includes a GameBoy emulator (needs a reasonably beefy Palm), a TV remote, and a rather nice space invaders-type game. Might still have these kicking around somewhere, if you're intrested (I've always had a soft spot for Palm-type systems).
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Tue, 2-Aug-2005 7:24 PM (UTC)
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Jesus, now I know why I got rid of my palm based smart phones, and switched to a simple bluetooth phone with a calendar and contacts list. My SE T608 syncs with iCal and the Mac address book in about 30 to 90 seconds max (over bluetooth even!). Granted the process occasionally shits on itself, but that's because Sprint and SE rushed the T608 to market, and SE now refuses to support it.
I'm still standing by Verichat. I can even give it to you if you'd like.
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/5887295/515656) | From: jwz
Tue, 2-Aug-2005 2:46 PM (UTC)
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I tried it briefly -- it kicks my desktop AIM connection off. And even if it didn't, there's no fuckin' way I'm paying a yearly subscription fee for a chat program.
![[User Picture]](http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/68048346/7909329) | From: cdavies
Tue, 2-Aug-2005 2:45 PM (UTC)
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Here's how to get a ringtone from an mp3. Use sox to get the audio in to one word samples, 1 channel 8000 samples RAW audio (sox command line -r 8000 -w -c 1). This part works on Linux, I hope it works on your mac too. Get the AMR-NB reference implementation from http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/archive/26_series/26.073/26073-510.zip. Unzip the source, and open the makefile. From the cflags remove pedantic, add -DMMS_IO. make the source. Use the resulting encoder executable to encode the raw file you created earlier. With this command line: encoder -dtx MR122 out.amr Transfer it to your phone with bluetooth or email or whatever, it should just recognise it as a ringtone. If you're impatient and want to make sure it works, here's the ringtone I'm currently using on my Nokia 9500, Dueling Banjos. http://www.cdavies.org/dueling.amr
| From: jwz
Wed, 3-Aug-2005 1:01 AM (UTC)
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Awesome, thanks! It took some hacking to get that code to compile on Linux, but I made it work. It died early on OSX, so I didn't try too hard there.
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Wed, 3-Aug-2005 1:03 AM (UTC)
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FWIW, someone mailed me and said that Nokia Multimedia Converter 2.0 is another way to create .AMR files, but I haven't tried it, as I lead a blissfully Windows-free existence.
Although the first Tiger iChat client broke concurrent logins the 10.4.2 update fixed it. Works great.
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Tue, 2-Aug-2005 6:44 PM (UTC)
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Oh thank GOD.
One thing you can do to speed up HotSync is disable any crap you don't really need. Yes, I know it is obvious, but worth mentioning - some of the optional software can really bog down the sync. I've installed Adobe Reader and Documents To Go, but by default I have them set to 'Do Nothing' in HotSync manager. I've also set the mail clients to 'Do Nothing' by default, since if I'm going to access email I'm probably going to do it wirelessly anyway.
You could also set 'Backup' to 'Do Nothing' and save some time - but make sure you do the backup periodically, just in case.
Off-topic, and sorry for hijacking the thread, but: how does Adobe Reader for Palm deal with images in PDFs? I am considering buying a PDA, and this is one of the factors that I'm considering. (From what I've seen, there is a PDF -> Palm converter, but does it work well with embedded images in PDFs?)
1. I despise ringtones and always have my Treo on silent, but if you want MP3 ringtones, Make Magazine's online version recently had an article which points to a non-free app, LightWav that will let you use MP3, OGG, etc. It does this through some kind of system extension hackery because out of the box, it only works with MIDI files (which you can install with the built-in web browser, if you point it to a web server that has the correct content type for MIDI files.) 2. Are you using the official Palm Desktop or a third-party synchronization program. I do not remember how fast the original Palm Desktop app syncs over bluetooth, but The Missing Sync is really quite good about detecting deltas and only sending changes over the link--much less than 8 minutes of sync time for basic synchronizations. Keep in mind, though, that the way it backs up freshly installed applications is a little screwy. If you install an app during a sync, then do absolutely nothing with the Palm, then sync again...well, the app then makes a "round trip" by returning back to the PC for backup. It would seem more intelligent for them to do an instant backup of the *.PRC when the initial installation sync is made, but they don't do that for some reason. 3. Others have recommended Butler, but I have no personal experience with the app. 4. You may have to break down and get VeriChat. I noted in a previous response, you said that logging in from multiple machines did not work for you, but I can assure you that it really does work. Maybe they disable that in the demo version? The yearly fee they are charging now sucks--I managed to sign up when they were offering both the yearly thing and a lifetime subscription and took advantage of the latter. I wish you luck in your search for a free client that works for you, but my experience with the Palm (your mileage may vary) is that 99% of the free software is free because it is written by someone learning the platform and is usually substandard code.
| From: lohphat
Tue, 2-Aug-2005 5:47 PM (UTC)
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Problem is that there is no protected memory access and memory leaks from poorly written apps can wedge the damn thing tighter than jwz's...er, um...code. Mmm...reset loops.
you have a phone with an actual display that works??
*pfffft*
show-off!
LEDoff does what you want with the blinking, and is free. It works perfectly on my 600, and the page claims that it works on the 650 too.
seconded... works well on 650.
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Wed, 3-Aug-2005 3:49 AM (UTC)
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Ooh, what tetris did you find?
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Wed, 3-Aug-2005 12:48 PM (UTC)
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Handmark Tetris Classic Game Pack. It's got a few other games in it too. The solitaire is also good, but I have discovered that I am, in fact, the world's worst solitaire player.
From: mspong
Wed, 3-Aug-2005 6:38 AM (UTC)
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Well, I got fed up with my Treo and sold it a few weeks ago (still waiting for a smartphone that doesn't suck, and a PalmOS-based one just isn't gonna cut it in this day and age). But I did have mine for 4 or 5 months and learned stuff the hard way (I wrote up a post on my blog about the apps I ended up settling on). Anyway. For mp3 ringtones, I used Lightwav, which works fine (and since it plays through PocketTunes, it also supports wav, wma, and even ogg). To speed up Bluetooth syncing, I used Missing Sync and turned off the "full backup" option. Without that, it syncs much much faster (although I usually did a full backup once a week or so). For LED controls, you can use Butler, although it's a pretty buggy and annoying program. I just learned to deal with the blinking. For AIM, Verichat is the best PalmOS client, but like you said, they charge a subscription fee. Most US cell providers have SMS to AIM gateways, though. There are (provider-specific) numbers you can send SMS's to which will do things like log onto AIM, log out, query your online buddies list, send an SMS to a person, block somebody, and so on. Google to find these numbers for your specific provider.
FWIW, if you've disabled the "full backup" option on sync, you can use a program like Backup Buddy to make scheduled backups to an SD card instead. It's especially handy if you're travelling and won't be able to sync for a while.
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Wed, 3-Aug-2005 11:47 AM (UTC)
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But I seem to recall something about that's just the way it works with shitty AIM connection when I was using a Clié, and that's not too different from a Treo (excepting the no phone thing). Consequently, I did not use AIM on it. It was pointless. Also, speaking of ringtones.
The subscription fee for Verichat covers the cost of them running their servers -- the Verichat client doesn't connect directly to AIM, it connects to their server which maintains your presence on the different chat systems. This means that you don't have to keep a constant connection running from the phone to their server. The application can work in a few different modes; it can wake up periodically and check the server to see if there are new IMs or it can be pushed "wakeup messages" over SMS that causes it to fetch the new data from their service.
If the app did all the work, the annual subscription would be ridiculous, but since you're actually using a network service that requires ongoing work on the vendor's part, it doesn't bother me that much. | |
