jwz - God is Great, by which I mean, Very Very Large

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mato
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:50 PM (UTC)

Frink?

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Did you just discover Frink?

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jwz
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:53 PM (UTC)

Re: Frink?

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Never heard of it. I do all my math in Emacs Lisp, with occasional help from /usr/bin/units.

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nightskywarlock
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:52 PM (UTC)

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this topic @ e2

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jwz
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:56 PM (UTC)

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That's awesome.

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g_na
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:54 PM (UTC)

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A and B don't add up. I'm assuming A takes into account that many people who are baptised catholic eventually eschew the religion once they are old enough to think for themselves.

Communion wafers are much smaller than Ritz crackers. I'm guessing 1/4-1/8 the size of one Ritz, and with less fat.

Catholics nowadays almost never drink the "blood". The priest will "transubstantiate" some wine and take a sip, but it's almost never given to the general public. Maybe they're running out of blood?

The average person sheds 18kg/40 lbs of skin in a lifetime (source: Human Anatomy, Marieb & Mallatt, PeArson Education 2003).

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g_na
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:01 PM (UTC)

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Oh, also for G - that would be everytime they go to church, and catholics are supposed to go once per week.

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catmoran
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:54 PM (UTC)

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I'm way too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure communion wafers are a *lot* thinner than a ritz cracker.

So it's quite possible Jesus is only 250x larger than a blue whale.

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jwz
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:58 PM (UTC)

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The 2500 figure is "whale vs. person", not "jesus vs. whale."

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novalis
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 4:59 PM (UTC)

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In 2001, Clarke claimed that the ratio of dead to living was 30:1, but I don't know whether this was a projection made when 2001 was written, or based on the time that it was written.

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jwz
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:05 PM (UTC)

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He was counting all the way back to homo erectus or something, so that doesn't really help.

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brad
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:01 PM (UTC)

My Jesus

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ydna
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:05 PM (UTC)

Re: My Jesus

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Ha! I just got my copy today (with a new PS2).

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zenmonkeykstop
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:08 PM (UTC)

Once I caught a Jesus |------------this------------| big...

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I remember hearing that at one stage, there were enough relics of the cross floating around Europe to make a dozen of them. Noow we know why.

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jkonrath
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:09 PM (UTC)

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Humans allegedly shed about 40 pounds of skin in their lifetime. I can't find out any facts on how much of that ends up in other peoples' food, though.

What always got me is this: if you can use anything as the host for communion, and the host "becomes" the flesh of Christ, why not use a cadaver? Wouldn't that essentially bring Jesus back to life into someone's body?

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edana_ni_emer
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 7:31 PM (UTC)

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Actually, what you'd have is a lifeless Jesus-clone. :-) Without the soul/spirit/spark of life/whatever you choose to call it, it's still just a dead body. And theoretically he's got better things to do Upstairs than come down to tell us what naughty boys and girls we've been.

Unless you feel that the formula of transsubstantiation is strong enough that Jesus would be drawn into the body whether he wants to or not. Then you might get a ressurected Jesus, or maybe even a Zombie Jesus. That would be fun.

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primroseport
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:10 PM (UTC)

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We shed 1.5 million skin cells every hour with a new skin surface every 28 to 30 days or so.

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wilecoyote
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:12 PM (UTC)

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Wow, you truly are a gentleman of leisure.

Actually, catholics can (and often do) take the Eucharist at every mass, which would mean every week (or even everyday, for hardcore believers). My childhood memory going to the church was that roughly half of the congregation every week stood up to take communion. OTOH, as people have pointed out, nobody except the priest drank the wine. And of course, I don't know to what extent this is extrapolable to the last 2000 years.

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g_na
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 5:18 PM (UTC)

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I don't know to what extent this is extrapolable to the last 2000 years.

Good point. I wonder how long catholicism has been around? One thousand years? 750?

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leolo
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 6:02 PM (UTC)

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According to Roman Catholic dogma, transubstantiation is the change of the substance of the Eucharistic elements — bread and wine — into the body and blood of Jesus, although they retain the physical accidents — i.e. appearance, taste, texture, etc.— of bread and wine.

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I'd also guess more clues could be had by wading through ECCLESIA DE EUCHARISTIA but I don't have any patience for papal encyclical letters.

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jwz
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 6:05 PM (UTC)

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What's your point?

That Wikipedia article goes on to say "bread and wine are really absent, and this presence and absence is real and not merely something in the mind of the believer."

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kzinti
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 6:02 PM (UTC)

What a concept...

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For people who take communion in my church (Methodist), the ritual is merely symbolic cannibalism. For Catholics, though, it's actual cannibalism. Cool. Thou art God.

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publius_ovidius
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 7:04 PM (UTC)

Re: What a concept...

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"Stranger in a Strange Land" reference, I assume? Hmm ... makes me wonder what other subtle jabs Heinlein may have tossed in that I overlooked (assuming this was intentional.)

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Mon, 25-Apr-2005 6:14 PM (UTC)

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catholicism is so funny, they _really_ sit down and think some things out, and other things it seems like they ran with a whim on drugs.. but of course I guess it was the 60's.

I'm not religious, but if I was going to be I would go (back) to catholicism, if they would only say 'we sat down and thought about it and it makes best sense to us if...' instead of 'the holy ghost came to us and said'.

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sugamunki
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 6:39 PM (UTC)

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This math is assuming each person were to receive only One communion in their lifetime?!

Don't most Catholics take up the cup Every week?

therefore we'd have to take
23,000,000,000 (the typical lifespan in years - 8) so for an easy number let's take 78 as the "typical" liespan and then subtract 8 *calculating* = 70...X56 weeks/year...

so we have 23,000,000,000 (70*56) = 90,160,000,000,000
so let's toss that into the equation and see where it brings us!

23,000,000,000 people
× 12 %
× 3920 communion
× 2000 years
= unGodly number here

(this moment of sheer stupidity has been tossed your way out of complete desperation to avoid thinking about homework-sorry to take it out on you)

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lordkiev
Mon, 25-Apr-2005 8:05 PM (UTC)

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Is it blasphemy to consume an ungodly amount of a supposed god?

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